By Ben Shapiro
Friday, December 19, 2025
This is adapted from a speech The Daily Wire’s Ben
Shapiro delivered Thursday night at AmericaFest, an annual conference hosted by
Turning Point USA. The speech follows remarks Shapiro made on Wednesday at the
Heritage Foundation, where he argued that conservatives must denounce
influencers that proffer conspiracy theories.
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It’s an honor to be here at Turning Point USA.
It’s even more of an honor to follow Erika Kirk, a heroic
figure and a true American patriot. Erika and her children are in all of our
hearts.
And of course, this is a bittersweet moment. It’s
absolutely bitter because of the murder of our friend Charlie Kirk—an
irreplaceable human being. But it’s also sweet to see the number of people who
continue to remember Charlie each and every day, and to carry on his mission.
Today, I want to talk about the future of the country.
And the future of the country relies on the future of the
conservative movement.
It relies on what TPUSA defines as its core mission:
“freedom, free markets, and limited government.”
And it relies, most of all, on truth.
Because victory—true victory—cannot be achieved without
truth. Victory without truth is victory for a lie. And that is no victory at
all.
And unity without truth is no unity. It is merely
solidarity in falsehood.
You see, we live in a chaotic time. In a time when lots
of people are asking lots of legitimate questions about the conservative
movement. What ought we think about the relationship between free markets and
traditional virtue? How should we craft a pragmatic foreign policy that spreads
our interests and upholds our ideals? What governmental means are appropriate
to achieve political ends?
All of these questions aren’t new; they’ve been asked for
as long as human beings have talked about politics.
And over the course of this conference, you’ll hear a lot
of opinions on a lot of these questions. I have my own perspectives on them, of
course—you can hear them every day. My fundamental values are simple: peace
through strength on foreign policy; traditional values in social policy; free
markets on economics.
But I want to talk about something even more important:
how to discern those attempting to speak truth from frauds and grifters.
Because something is new: an informational
environment rife with both opportunity and chaos. Opportunity, because the
legacy media gatekeepers are no longer in charge of what we see and hear. And
chaos, because an anarchic informational environment means that we must be smart
in how we assess the information and arguments we hear.
Why does this matter? Because today, the conservative
movement is in serious danger. It is in danger not just from a left that all
too frequently excuses everything up to and including murder. The conservative
movement is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of
principle but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty, who offer
nothing but bile and despair, who seek to undermine fundamental principles of
conservatism by championing enervation and grievance. These people are frauds,
and they are grifters. And they are something worse: a danger to the only
movement capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale.
So today, I want to go through five obligations that
people who speak to you on matters of importance have to you. I want to speak
to you of our duties.
Truth
Our first duty is truth.
We owe you the truth.
That means we should not mislead you; it means we
shouldn’t hide the ball; we shouldn’t be deliberately obscure about what we are
telling you. We have an obligation to clarity and to honesty.
This means that we must be clear in our language. We
should not traffic in generality. We should not say things like “they” shot
Charlie without specifying what we mean by “they.” The person who allegedly
shot Charlie, and whom all the evidence points at, is a gay, trans-loving
furry. If we are going to target ideological movements, we should talk about
the fact that the radical trans movement treats all who oppose it as
existential threats. Or if we are going to talk about the Democratic Party
making room for the radical trans movement and echoing its inflammatory
rhetoric, we should talk about that. Those are specific problems, and
they require specific responses. When people say “they shot Charlie,” however,
they are instead trafficking in vagary that results in increased hatred without
proposing any effective response. They are fostering despair and rage. And that
makes everything worse.
We must also be honest about what people say and do,
regardless of what we believe that means coalitionally. It is the job of
politicians to build coalitions; it is the job of those of us who try to shape
public opinion to hold those politicians to account, to hold them accountable
to our value systems. We must not let fear of audience anger deter us from
telling the truth; we must not let fear of other hosts deter us from telling
the truth.
So, for example, if Candace Owens decides to spend every
day since the murder of Charlie Kirk casting aspersions at TPUSA and the people
who work here—to cast aspersions at Mikey McCoy, and Andrew Kolvet and Blake
Neff and Tyler Bowyer, and yes, at Erika Kirk—and to imply or outright claim
complicity in a cover-up over Charlie’s murder. . . to spew absolutely baseless
trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to Mossad to members of
TPUSA in Charlie’s murder or a cover-up in that murder. . . then we, as people
with a microphone, have a moral obligation to call that out, by name.
Erika and TPUSA never should have been put in the position to have to
defend themselves against such specious and evil attacks, particularly in a
time of mourning. And the people who refused to condemn Candace’s truly vicious
attacks—and some of them are speaking here tonight—are guilty of cowardice.
Yes, cowardice. The fact that Candace has been vomiting all sorts of hideous
and conspiratorial nonsense into the public square for years on end while
others fly cover for her is just as cowardly.
Principle, Not Personal Feeling
Second, because we owe you the truth, we owe you the duty
to speak out of principle, not personal feeling.
It should not matter whether we “despise” someone or
“love” them. The question is what they say and do, and whether those things are
morally decent or not. On a political level, do they foster freedom, justice,
and prosperity? On a personal level, do they treat others as they would wish to
be treated?
Personal feeling is not a substitute for moral judgment.
To take, again, the Candace Owens situation as an
example, friendship with public figures who do or say evil things is not an
excuse for silence on the matter. Politics isn’t The Sisterhood of the
Traveling Pants. Politics is about principle. And if you are willing to
sacrifice basic truth and simple principle in favor of emotional solidarity,
you have betrayed your fundamental duty to the American people.
First off, I should break the omerta here, and just be
clear: The notion that people in our industry are close friends—like we all
take holiday breaks with each other—is generally untrue. We’re business
colleagues, the same way that everybody else has business colleagues. We don’t
attend other hosts’ graduations, or hang out at each others’ houses for
Thanksgiving. We see each other at conferences and talk on the phone with each
other and all the rest. But even if it were true that other public figures were
our best friends, that does not relieve us of our duty to speak out of
principle, and not cover up evil or shy away from addressing it out of
friendship.
So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent
on Candace’s targeting of TPUSA, or to mirror her insane line of questioning,
because you “love” Candace personally. The same holds true of Megyn Kelly—a
person I consider a friend—characterizing Candace as a “young mother,” and thus
shying away from condemning her actions or fibbing about them. That’s simply a
nonstarter. Meghan Markle is a young mother. So is Ilhan Omar, for that matter.
And when Megyn says that “my goal and my job here is to
try to understand—yes, where Candace is coming from on this,” as
she did this week, and says she sees no purpose in inserting herself “into
this on one side,” that’s a moral and logical absurdity. There is only one
moral side here: Erika’s side. The side of the widow with two children whose
husband was shot live on camera in front of the whole world. Friendship with
the person accusing TPUSA of a cover-up of Charlie’s murder is no excuse for
cowardice.
Responsibility
Third, and relatedly, we have a duty to take
responsibility for what we say and do. If we hire awful people, we are
responsible for that—and I have some experience there, as you might suspect.
That means that if we offer a guest for your viewing, we owe it to you to ask
the kinds of questions that get at the truth. If we agree with the guest,
that’s fine—but we should own it. So, for example, if you host a Hitler
apologist, Nazi-loving, anti-American piece of shit like Nick Fuentes—the Nick
Fuentes who
said that the vice president of the United States is a “fat gay race
traitor married to a jeet,” the person who said that Charlie Kirk was a
“retarded idiot” and
that he “took Turning Point USA and fucked it. . . and that’s why it’s
filled with Groypers”—and you proceed to glaze him, you ought to own it. There
is a reason that Charlie despised Fuentes, and indeed chided Dinesh D’Souza for
even debating him: He knew that Fuentes is an evil troll, and that building him
up is an act of moral imbecility. And that’s precisely what Tucker Carlson did:
He built Nick Fuentes up. He ought to take responsibility for that, just as he
ought to take responsibility for glazing pornographer and alleged sex
trafficker Andrew Tate, or for mainstreaming fake historian and Nazi apologist
Daryl Cooper as “America’s best and most honest popular historian.” Hosts are
indeed responsible for the guests they choose and the questions they ask them.
Evidence
Fourth, because we have a duty to truth, we have a
duty to provide you evidence.
Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories, and “just
asking questions” is lazy and stupid and misleading. None of them are a
substitute for truth. So when Candace Owens says, “I don’t know know,
but I know,” that’s retarded, and we are all more retarded for having heard it.
When Steve Bannon, for example, accuses his foreign policy opponents of loyalty
to a foreign country, he’s not actually making an argument based in
evidence—he’s simply maligning people with whom he disagrees. Which is par for
the course from a man who was once a PR agent for Jeffrey Epstein.
Our duty to provide you evidence means we must do much
more than “just ask questions.” Just asking questions is what my 5-year-old
does. And it’s cute when it comes from a 5-year-old. But when grown men and
women spend their days “just asking questions” without seeking answers,
they’re lying to you. In fact, they’re doing something worse: They’re seeding
distrust in the world around you, and enervating you in the process.
So, for example, if Tucker Carlson gets onstage here at
TPUSA and claims, without evidence, that Epstein was running a Mossad rape ring
being covered up by the Trump administration, they are not uncovering a
conspiracy or effectuating a solution. They are claiming a special provenance
to information they won’t let you see, which builds their power and leaves you
with none. They are also implicating in their speculation actual human beings,
like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi, and yes, the president of the
United States, even if they are too pusillanimous to say it. And that means you
won’t trust any of those people in the future. You haven’t gotten smarter.
You’ve just been manipulated.
When forced to demonstrate evidence, these same people
will refuse to provide it. They’ll claim ignorance. They’ll pretend that
they’re outside the system, and have no access to actual information—they’re
“just asking questions,” of course. But many of these same people have direct
pipelines to the informational sources! Tucker Carlson is good friends with the
vice president. He could call him up for clarification at any time. But he
won’t. Because that might undermine the empty speculation.
This doesn’t mean that there aren’t conspiracies—there
are. But actual conspiracies require actual evidence. Yes, there was a
Russiagate conspiracy, and we know the names of the people involved, like
Hillary Clinton and Fusion GPS and James Comey and Loretta Lynch and Peter
Strzok and Adam Schiff, and what they did. Yes, there was a Covid-19
conspiracy: We know that Anthony Fauci worked to shut down alternative
solutions from people like Jay Bhattacharya.
But when people posit a conspiracy and provide no
evidence, then they are doing you a fundamental disservice. And they are making
you stupider in the process.
Solutions
Finally, because it is our job to make the lives of our
audience better-informed—and just generally better—we have a duty to propose solutions.
That’s why we have to talk about our problems—in order to
find the solutions. That’s, after all, what politics is supposed to be
about: finding solutions to our common problems. If we speak endlessly about
the problems we face, without ever positing a solution other than “wrecking the
system” or centralizing power in a cult-like figure, we are not finding
solutions. We’re merely exacerbating problems.
“Just asking questions,” positing vague conspiracies,
raving like Alex Jones about secret confederacies that control your life—none
of it makes your life better. In fact, it makes it markedly worse. That’s
because if you truly come to believe that nothing in your life is in your
control, you won’t take control of your life. You’ll despair of your ability to
change your own circumstances. And then you’ll fail.
And you must not fail.
Because here’s the truth: For all of its problems, many
of which are real and serious, the United States is still the greatest country
in the history of the world. We have the greatest constitution ever devised by
man, and the greatest founding philosophy ever put to paper in the Declaration
of Independence. In this country, you can make of yourself what you will—and if
there are true obstacles standing in your way, we can work together to remove
them.
That, by the way, is the essence of conservatism: that we
live in a world created by God, with a logic and a rationale; that we, as human
beings, were created in God’s image, with creative capacity and the ability to
choose; and that in a free country of limited government and defined powers,
with property rights and equality under the law, our destiny is in our
hands—and that we all have a defined duty to make the most of that
historic opportunity.
Anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is lying to
you, and making your life actively worse in the process.
That lie may feel good, at least for the moment. It may
excuse us from taking the corrective action we can take on a personal level to
fix our lives. It may give us someone else to blame for our own failures.
But in the end, that lie kills—not just your future, but
the country we’ve been given.
Conclusion
So, for those of us who talk for a living, that is
our job: to discuss America’s problems with truth and evidence; to provide
possible solutions; and to encourage people to succeed.
We who speak to people on a regular basis, who have a
microphone and an audience, have duties to you:
The duty to speak the truth.
The duty to speak from principle, not personal feeling.
The duty to take responsibility for our actions.
The duty to provide you evidence—to do more than
conspiricize or “just ask questions.”
And the duty to posit real solutions.
If we fail in those duties, you ought not listen to us.
But you have duties, too.
Far more important duties, to God and to yourself: to do
the best for yourself and your family and your country with the abilities God
gave you; to be grateful for this extraordinary country; to celebrate what we
have all been given; and to fight to preserve it.
All of that begins with truth.
We owe you that quest for truth.
You owe yourself that quest for truth.
True victory only comes through truth.
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