National Review Online
Thursday, October 30, 2025
Tucker Carlson, knee-deep already, has taken another step
into the muck with a friendly interview with Nick Fuentes.
The issue isn’t merely that Carlson “platformed” a
white-nationalist influencer.
This framing allows Carlson and his defenders to portray
the interview and others like it as an effort at open debate, as a good-faith
attempt at engagement with alternative views.
The deeper problem is that Carlson didn’t actually
challenge any of Fuentes’s noxious views that he has spelled out quite clearly
over the years. Fuentes has engaged in Holocaust
denial, called Adolf Hitler “really
f***ing cool,” and said that if his movement gained power, it would execute “perfidious Jews.”
Carlson didn’t even need to go back through old clips to
find objectionable statements. In his appearance, Fuentes stated that the “big
challenge” to unifying the country against tribal interests was “organized
Jewry in America,” and he expressed admiration for Soviet butcher Joseph
Stalin. He did not receive any pushback from Carlson.
It also can’t be said that Carlson’s interviewing style
is simply to let his guests speak. In June, Carlson held a combative interview
with Senator Ted Cruz that descended into an extended shouting match. Why would
Carlson choose to take an oppositional tack to a senator who has been fighting
for conservatism for decades, but not to a podcaster who praises Stalin? The
obvious answer is that Fuentes is an avowed Jew-hater while Cruz is a staunch
supporter of Israel.
Carlson stated during his interview that he thinks Cruz,
Mike Huckabee, and other figures who are Christian and support Israel have been
infected by a “brain virus.” About these “Christian Zionists,” he said: “I
dislike them more than anybody. Because it’s Christian heresy, and I’m offended
by that as a Christian.”
His contempt presumably extends to a swath of Evangelical
Christians, the vast majority of whom are strongly pro-Israel.
It would be easy to dismiss Carlson, and his now-extensive history of promoting antisemitism, as the
handiwork of another personality desperate for attention in the online economy.
But Carlson is one of the nation’s most prominent and influential commentators.
After the death of Charlie Kirk, Carlson has become a leading speaker for the
organization that Kirk founded, Turning Point USA. When Vice President JD Vance
subbed in as a host on Kirk’s podcast after the assassination, Carlson was his
guest.
Carlson’s sway, though, is currently limited by the fact
that President Trump — who happens to like Jews and who has been the strongest
supporter of Israel of any U.S. president in history — is in charge of the
Republican Party and ultimately defines MAGA.
In June, Trump ignored Carlson and joined Israel’s effort
to take out Iran’s nuclear program, which was successful in neutralizing a
threat that had been looming over the Middle East for decades without any U.S.
casualties. Carlson had predicted
that it would trigger World War III and that it could kill thousands of
Americans within a week. Trump dismissed him as “kooky Tucker Carlson.”
Trump won’t be around forever, though. Which is one
reason that Carlson, Fuentes, Candace Owens, and other online influencers are
pushing so hard to try and remake the Republican Party and the conservative
movement into one that is hostile toward Israel and the Jewish people.
The idea that it should be seen as the America First
position to oppose Israel and American Jewry is not only a moral abomination;
it makes no sense. Israel is a technologically innovative, staunchly
pro-American nation in the heart of a strategically important region. Over the
past several years, with U.S. support, Israeli actions have weakened the
anti-American terrorist group the Houthis; neutered Hezbollah (the terrorist
group that slaughtered 241 U.S. servicemembers in the 1983 Marine Barracks bombing);
and crippled the nuclear program of a nation that has for decades vowed “Death
to America.” It isn’t pro-Israel protesters in the U.S. who are burning
American flags and calling for the “total eradication of Western civilization” — it is the
so-called pro-Palestine movement. It wasn’t Israelis who
handed out candy to celebrate the September 11 attacks — that was
Palestinians.
George Washington, in a famous letter to a Jewish
congregation in Newport, R.I., in 1790, wrote, “May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell
in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other
Inhabitants.” American Jews have enjoyed more security and freedom here than at
any place in world history and rewarded that welcome by making positive
contributions to the nation in just about every field imaginable. A version of
America that is no longer safe for Jews to live in securely, and that is
overtaken by anti-Israel zealots, is not an America that any conservative
should want to live in.
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